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where do i start from? LOLn'am a proud member of 'digit squad' and i know what i am about say, so have faith.nAgree that Mr. Osho was less aware about APUs and their ownership etc etc and his review had that funny element. But i believe that you are someone who haven't owned or used an AMD fueled machine. And i also admire the fact that you 've been living in a world which is a decade old from now. Because overheating issue with AMD chips was a thing of past, i have my 5 year old athlon x2 cpu which never went above 70C even at full utilization and with hours and hours of high end gaming(say max payne 3 , Hitman absolution etc) and Never "slowed down" as misguided by you. here is what you have said-nn"**FACT: AMD machines are also very well known for their Performance Depreciation. i.e. In the beginning you might Feel its Faster than a ROCKET but Over a certain months it will start acting like a BOX & then the only Answer you will get from your Service Center's is "Aapkaa PC Mein Virus hai Sir...... FORMAT karnaa Padegaa -- Charge Lagega"nnDude you have any idea why did AMD acquire ATI ? i guess not! Back in 2006 ATI was a part of AMD, and the main purpose for that acquisition was to develop APUs, they have used ATI's impressive GPU background to fuel their future products. Now coming to the point that AMD did went out of the scene for few years because of the development phase of APUs and FX series which by far is the only affordable native 8 core CPU(talking about FX81xx) and has the world record for highest overclocking potential.nnNow performance wise speaking, i do not believe in synthetic benchmarks according to me they are fool's tools. All that matters is the real world performance and AMD is know as Gaming giant all over. i quote you here-nn"Biggest Reason for AMD machines having a Very SHORT Life Span (10 - 14 Months MAX). In a country like INDIA where its already too HOT AMD only makes it HOTTER & dont even forget about the DUST.`" nn6 months? Are you a total moron or what, ok common let me guess you are someone who has fractional knowledge about Intel's I series, wondering on flipkart just to buzz around and humiliate other fellow reviewers since you have written just one review so far. Wait this thing sounds familiar, oh yes the same thing was told to me say, 5-6 year back by an INTEL dealer just because intel paid him extra commission for not selling AMD, hmmm are you one of those?nn"Biggest Reason for AMD machines having a Very SHORT Life Span (10 - 14 Months MAX)"nnGive me a freaking break, my machine, 5 years old. I have my relatives owning the G6 2005ax(a8 trinity) and Asus laptops powered by 1st gen(a6 llano) APUs and they are almost 1.5 years old never faced your so called HEATING ISSUE and all they do is GAMING, gaming and gaming (without a Cooling pad). So stop being an Intel driven person and open up your mind for some other great companies as well. nnBreaking intel's neck is the fact that HD4000 stands nowhere near HD7640G or for an instance take the A10 desktop APU with HD7660G and throw it in front of i7 with HD4000, Boy A10 being priced at mere 8k kicks i7's ass in gaming performance and Performing tasks like Video editing, PhotoShop cs6, Winzip compression because of the OpenCl support that AMD radeon offers. It is 2 or 3 times(sometimes) faster than your overrated intel crap. nnAnother confused quote-nn"APU doesnt mean anything other than a Processor by Intel. AMD Just gave it a Fancy SHORT Slang."nnKid, APU is their registered name for these hybrid CPUs and one does simply not addresses it by saying "APU doesnt mean anything other than a Processor by Intel." are you lost?nAPU is AMD's processor not of intel's and the idea of combining GPU with CPU is also of AMD not of intel's. nGet some knowledge you bleepster.nSlang, you even know what does a Slang mean?nSandy bridge, huron river, ivy bridge next what london brdge or hawra bridge? LOL These are Slang but least FANCY!nnLastly for all those worried about the longevity of the laptop and heat management, Processor makers have nothing to do with Laptop makers when it comes to designing their Lappy's heat management system, i.e HP's case design has caused heating issues even in intel cpus, But Asus has the best case layout and never runs hot. Hence it is a No-brainer's task to accuse CPU manufactures for mistakes of Laptop makers. nnAnd for those wondering about this particular laptop's performance, look this is the flagship APU from AMD, with the best specs from HP, enough RAM and HD7670M has proved to be the best mobile GPU beating GT640 which resides in many 60K plus laptops or say ULTRABOOKS, and i would strongly recommend to cross-check the specs mentioned by Flipkart with the one's on the official site. by far the best spec laptop till 70-80K price range, enough said!
I almost fell off the chair laughing when I read Surya Singhs biased review, because it was a totally meaningless and unnecessary attempt to undermine this excellent laptop configuration from AMD and HP. So I'm here to set the facts straight. If your only interested in a brief review, scroll to the bottom :)nn1. Mr. Osho seems to have had some difficulty expressing his thoughts in English. What he actually meant to say by 'compatible' was that the AMD APU's Graphics and the AMD Radeon GPU can be paired and made to run TOGETHER by using CrossFire technology. This is NOT possible on Intel laptops using Nvidia's Optimus, as optimus only allows you to use one GPU at a time, while the other one is doing nothing. What a waste!nAgain, what he said about not considering the integrated graphics is also true. The discrete HD 7670M alone (even without crossfiring) on this laptop will destroy ANY Intel integrated graphics and low end Nvidia chips like the 610m/620m.nn2. Singh's claim that AMD laptops are "heat friendly" are also untrue. There were some AMD lappies in 2007-2009 that ran hot, but this issue has long been solved now by AMD. Don't forget that intel also has the same problem with its Pentium 4 and 4M laptops in 2004 - 2006. Infact Pentium 4's run so hot, that they are also called "Space heaters" or "toasters" by many exerts :DnA very straight forward fact is here, when today both Intel's and AMD's standard mobile chips are rated at the SAME 35W TDP, then how the hell can the AMD chip run hotter?!!! Today, heat comes mainly from GPU's when playing games, not CPU's any more.nn3. GENERAL INFORMATION - THIS FACT IS VERY IMPORTANT TO ALL PEOPLE WHO WANT TO BUY A GOOD GAMING LAPTOP.n All modern GAMING laptops with medium to high performance graphics, irrespective of AMD/Intel/Nvidia WILL RUN HOT. You cannot escape this fact. nIf your running cheap very low end graphics like a Nvidia 510m/610m or Radeon HD 7450m, or not running any discrete graphics at all then its all fine.nHowever, once you get into serious actual gaming class of GPUs, like Nvidia 630m/Radeon 7670m and higher, the laptop WILL run hot.nn4. His mentioning of the Itanium chips however, made me laugh the hardest. The Itanium was a big mistake by Intel. As soon as AMD Opterons with AMD64 technology came out in 2003-2004, almost NO ONE wanted to buy Intel's ultra expensive Itaniums!! In fact, Intel wants to kill and close down the Itanium line as soon as possible because its not making much money. While intel spent billions of dollars to make a new 64 bit architecture which was completely different from existing x86 chips, breaking code compatibility, AMD very smartly just extended the the existing architecture to make todays x86-64 chips which became an instant hit in the server market. This same technology is still being used in todays chips, and Intel was forced to copy this technology from AMD and use it in disguise as EMT64/Intel64[AMD and Intel have a cross-lisencing agreement in place,so both can use each others innovations]. If it was not for AMD, we would all be stuck with 32bit computers and 4GB of RAM.nn5. Last and finally he has once again made a fool of himself by mentioning about capacitors. All motherboards for Intel and AMD are made by more or less the SAME people. 80% of mobo's are made by Asus, Gigayte and MSI, using the exact same quality capacitors, inductors and resistors. How the hell can ONLY AMD laptops suffer from blown capacitors then ??!! Maybe the fool believes in black magic and curses or something :P:P In reality, both Intel and AMD motherboards fail at the same rate. You can go and ask your local computer repair shop if you don't believe me!!nn6. Last but not the least, AMD did not "overtake" ATI, it PURCHASED the whole ATI company in 2007-2008. That's why ATI Radeon is now called AMD Radeon.nn7. His big term, "Performance Degradation" which supposedly affects only AMD systems is another one of those non-existent facts which he seems to have pulled out from his rear end. :) All systems not maintained well degrade over time, not just AMD'snn8. @Surya You seem very fascinated by the word Ghanta, maybe its because most of your brains are situated not inside you head, but in your "Ghanta" downstairs :P Go see a gynecologist soon, because at the rate your spreading lies, your half inch ghanta mite shrink even more. Cheers :)nn[Forced to write my own review due to the Intel fanboy, Mr. Surya Singh's bird-brained review :D]nnGENERAL INFOn============nnThis is one of the BEST GAIMNG laptops you can buy in the
HI....everyone this is a great laptop i just ordered one......if u want to have a look at the laptop physically then just go to any nearby HP dealer and go through any HP pavalion G6 series model....all are same and it is a well build laptop....!!! NOW THE IMPORTANT THING THAT IS DRIVER's......!! THE SAME MODEL IS AVAILABLE IN U.S. BY THE NAME HP PAVALION G6 2002AX AND THESE DRIVER WILL WORK PERFECTLY ON THIS LAPTOP.....SO GO AHEAD AND DOWNLOAD THE DRIVERS FOR WINDOWS 7 AND 8 FROM THE U.S. WEBSITE FOR G6 2002AX......AND HAVE A NICE EXPERIENCE WITH THIS LAPTOP...:) ONE MORE THING THE U.S. MODEL HAS 1GB 7670M RATHER THAN 2GB 7670M LIKE IN INDIAN MODEL BUT IT DOSE NOT AFFECT DRIVER'S...!!!
1) AMD A10 CPU (Benchmarks vs Real Life performance) Benchmark Tests: Yes, the benchmarks say that it stands between a 3rd generation (read Ivy Bridge) i3 and i7. And also when it comes to a single core application, the i3 beats A10. Reality: I will not say the benchmarks do not reflect the truth, but yes it isn't the reality. Engineering perspective, there is always a difference between the idle case and the real life scenario. I find the A10 snappier than the i5 and I have a HP 450 i3 based system along with this, so I won't even speak about an i3's performance (it is pathetic). An i3 is basically the core 2 duo with a revised 22nm architecture. And it is pathetic. And it is meant for low end systems afterall. There are very few applications till date which can use the multi-threaded and multi-core capabilities of a quad core. But none the less, it is future proof. Windows has started using more threads with every new generation of its OS and a quad will sure help if you do not plan to buy a new system with the release of every new OS. Yes AMD is still stuck to the old 32nm architecture when intel is supposedly coming out with the Haswell this year (2nd gen 22nm). But talking about performance, it is derived out of the no of transistors. So, intel can give you more performance by reducing the chip size every year. And AMD is currently doing it by increasing the size of the chip overall. And intel isn't going great when it comes to Thermal Design. Heating up isn't an AMD issue now, its more of an intel thing. Google if you don't believe. So, there is goes. Intel fanboys can sit and cry. I am sorry to see AMD's poor state with process technology improvements, but it has done an amazing job with the APU's. When it comes to performance, you cannot expect a ferrari fitted with an 800's tyres to race at 330MPH. This is called a bottleneck. The analogy I will draw here is with respect to Intel's poor IGP(Integrated Graphics Processor). The best i7 with HD 4000 has 16 cores for its IGP whereas an A10 has 384 ATI cores. So, you know where to draw the conclusion. Of course a gamer will always have a dedicated GPU to satisfy his gaming needs, but mind you there are other tasks as well that benefits from a good GPU. AMD uses its IGP to accelerate mundane tasks like browsing, movie playback, multi core applications etc. And the experience is fantabulous. When you talk about performance, you need a well balanced performance for everyday computing. An Intel with its advanced architecture (yes I love intel's architecture and I have read it all) does a great job in number crunching processes single core demanding applications, where an i5/i7 will literally smoke A10. But the A10 is an excellent mainstream processor which can multi task with god-like capabilities and tear games to pieces and at the same time is more power efficient as compared to an Ivy Bridge Intel. It is faster than an i5 for regular computing and better placed than the similarly spec'd i5/i7's for any kind of gaming. Of course you can get better if you want to pay more. End of the day, you don't want a computer software to tell you which computer to buy. Go to a store use both, I can bet you'll find an A10 snappier than most intels. I read somewhere that this is a dual core. Please get your facts right. This is a quad core and shares with two modules. And the only thing shared is an FPU. This is the major reason why this performs badly in Benchmark tests. The Benchmarking tests mostly test with FPU intensive test cases. In real life you will never face such situations. 2) ATI Radeon 7670m Now this is precisely why I bought this Laptop. Other Laptops with an i5/i7 at 55k plus range offers you an nVidia GT 630/640M which isn't as capable as the 7670M. More than the performance here, the thermal profile speaks. The 630-650 series heats up more than the 7670 and there goes your laptop. Well, haters gonna hate. But I have a friend of mine who is getting back a credit refund for his Asus K53SM-SX010D. Overheating issues with the 630M. For people who cannot compare to standards, it is awesome. I have played quite a few games with great FPS. Please get a good cooling pad and an external keyboard/mouse for gaming. With proper care this should last you a couple of years. P.S. Not satisfied with the build quality.
WOW!!! I have seen Laptops with similar configs in Samsung, Asus, Lennovo... none come close to the price quoted above.. nFor Indian market , this is a high performance notebook for budget buyers below 40K. nWith 1 TB HDD, 6 GB RM, 2.5 GB hybrid Crossfire ,all of these dancing around the AMD trinity (piledriver )Flagship A10 4600m for mobile devices.. Tha'ts a bang for buck configuration.nnThe AMD Piledriver series processors are AMD's 2nd gen Processors built on the previous bulldozer model. Compared to the 3rd gen i5, they fall behind for Raw Computing power but has a good lead for 3d rendering and Graphic benchmarks. nThis PC is a gaming PC and as a gamer i have ordered this already. Cant wait to get my hands on this notebook.!!!nA similar a configuration on intel based laptops EG: Samsung NP300E5C-U01IN Laptop Laptop costs well around 38K..and this one goes a 1 GB 620m video card which is easily out performed By ATI 7670 any day.nnOverheating issues on AMD based laptops?. Every laptop used for gaming and heavy computing programs are bound to have heating issues.. Unless you use the laptop just to check you emails...nOverheating AMD processors is an old Myth.. Its been more than 5 years since AMD has fixed this.nnI work for HP and i am surprised to see this model at this price which is easily the same price or even cheaper than a similar US model notebook.nnThis notebook is a package of very powerful hardware components packed together tightly ,designed to give very high performance for users who play games, render videos and graphics designers.nnMr.Surya Singh .. I dont know why flipcart forceed you to rate it.. Your review is groundless. You need to do more homework before you rate any product.nnI am not rating this product 5 stars b'cos i am an HP employee.. This is an unbiased rating completely based on H/W specs and performance charts found online.
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